I'm 33 and I feel I am now wasting productive years, setting slightly more challenging goals week after week, chasing a moving target, and never actually getting it. I feel I have way too much freedom, too many choices, and feel paralyzed.
What should I do? I am not the kind of person who can keep living like this forever... I feel like I realized (most of) my dreams, but not fulfilled a real hardcore purpose/mission.
How do I find meaning? What should I spend most of my time on?
This time I'd like to start really pouring my soul into something that can provide meaning to my life, without rushing into the next app/side project/hustle/startup to temporarily calm my curiosity.
help?
As another commenter mentioned, altruistic endeavors are a good choice. Even things like being a Boy Scout leader can be hugely fulfilling of that broader need.
I guess my message is, push yourself to try different things, ascend to new heights. You may, like me, crash and burn, but it's also a way to grow (perhaps, at least, like me, learn some humility and understanding of your own flaws and limitations).
There's a wonderful book, a bit dated but still worth reading: "What Should I Do With My Life" by Po Bronson[1], a set of interviews with people who became restless and changed careers, sometimes succeeding, sometimes "a work in progress". I got a lot of inspiration from reading others' stories and perhaps you will, as well.
What took me out of this loop was a stronger belief in God. I acknowledged that I was lost, submitted myself, and simply asked for guidance. This required a level of self-honestly and introspection. Incrementally, my life became filled with meaning as I began to understand Allah. Everything that I do, I do it in worship of Allah. I live and love in His light and life has never ever been better. My love and trust in Allah has given me a sense of purpose that is unparalleled. My relationships have improved tremendously and I am no longer subject to intense emotions of anxiety and existential dread. In turn, my productive output has improved as well as my mental clarity.(all by the grace of Allah)
I understand a lot of people may not believe in God. I implore you to throw your ego away and truly seek your wellbeing.
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Note: Allah literally translates to “The God” as Islam is strictly monotheistic.
Meaning comes from within. If you're looking for outside sources, you've already lost. If you've achieved enough material success that you no longer have to worry about working to survive, excellent! Be grateful, for you have something 99.999% of the world will never have. Use the free time you have achieved to think about things that matter to you. Not what you 'think' should matter, not what other people say matters, but what actually matters to you. If you haven't done this before, (and it sounds like you haven't), don't be surprised when it turns out to be a genuinely difficult question. That's ok! Take your time, roll it around in your mind. Don't try and go 100% all-in on things. That only works when you have a concrete goal already defined. You need to let your default network roam around for a bit.
You really need to spice up your life... Go to the dessert, do some 'safe' drugs, (aka, mushrooms)..., get a mistress.... get a motorcycle (and be safe about it), buy one of those trycycle open air cars and ride the coast, start playing some social sports seriously, (volleyball/soccer) etc... etc...
It is up to you what you think you like, but often you never know until you try it. The fact that you are not happy, means you are getting a mini burn out from being so 'square' all your life. Time to rebel a bit, just don't throw the baby with the bathwater, (aka, don't destroy the good stuff in your life, just incorporate some more risky fun)
The good thing is you have so many doors open now. Do whatever. You're young enough to pick up any hobby or career. Don't think about whether it's financially worth doing or if you're on some "mission" or "purpose". Don't think about whether it's safe or unpopular.
Sometimes the most fulfilling things are inherently worthless. Learn an instrument, buy a motorcycle, make a painting, become a scuba instructor, run a marathon, try drugs, move to another country, sit at a park/cafe and talk with people - you get the picture. You'll find something that clicks, just get out of your checklist view of life.
Why Passivity Breeds Mediocrity and Mental Illness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUs6NDsMWVI
It sounds like you've slammed your new life full of ephemeral busywork to, well, keep yourself occupied. It also sounds like you don't have a professional network that relies on you and that you rely on (since you're financially independent and just poking around these days).
You may want to take a step back, enmesh yourself for a few weeks or months in all the possible paths you could focus yourself on (which will likely be chaotic and unenjoyable), and then just dedicate yourself to pursuing a given path. Try to build up a network, feel you are helping others in the network, and see where it all goes.
Whether this path ends up being financially fruitful or being conventionally successful along some other axis should be viewed as irrelevant given your current status. You'll likely find just having a thing to do, that other people are also working tangentially on or are interested in, will bring you all the success you need.
What’s nice about atelic goals is they tend to be mutually exclusive and force you to choose where you will devote your time to lifelong improvement. Telic goals are the opposite - there’s always another race to get under your belt or another country to go visit or a bigger house to buy.
I'm not sure it's wise to link seeing life as meaningful to any future project you might take on. Projects can succeed or fail and they can start with good intentions but have unforeseen bad consequences.
Also, Rolf Dobelli, author of "The art of the good life", makes the case that doing what you do best and donating some of the money that you earn to worthwhile causes is far more efficient in obtaining results than doing volunteer work a professional could be paid to do much better (especially if that professional is in a part of the world where earnings and the cost of living are low).
In general I believe people find meaning either through a religion or some sort of philosophy of life (such as stoicism).
How is your faith life, do you believe in religion? As some others have alluded to, having gratitude and giving back I feel are your next steps you should consider taking. I think you are at a great time in your life to start that dialogue of faith, start giving back, start believing there is more in your life, more people you can help.
Life begins when we give back :) (and I don't doubt you haven't, but I think it's the next step for you after reading your comments).
Well, the way out of this is really stupid - you just have to learn to enjoy the music instead of always looking forward to reaching the end of the track.
Don't focus on you, focus on the world. Go heads down and focus on making life better for others. Lose yourself in that, and when you look up you will have become your answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpaUICxEhk
Life is not a journey helps put things in perspective.
Now I also live in one of the world's most beautiful cities surrounded by good friends and family. I spend a lot of time helping strangers with their problems for little to no reward. I still have a mortgage, but I feel at peace with that, and I probably never would have made it to where I am without taking those detours and getting my head straight first.
If you’re a programmer then automate your charitable work.
How many people can you help this week? 50,000?
Can you buy fertiliser for an entire city? Can you pull a ton of carbon out of the atmosphere? Can you speak for the defenceless, downtrodden, voiceless people who are suffering? Can you eliminate hunger for a whole village? Can you teach 10 kids to code and teach them to all teach 10?
Start helping people
Or, are you maybe humblebragging? To have all that at 33 years old is quite good. Are you seeking advice, or acknowledgement? For someone who has been so effective in their life, it seems odd to me that they feel the need to seek this advice.
All the best to you.
Edit: ps: one volunteering site that doesn't require you to figure out detailed extensive plans before getting started, is probably https://justserve.org . They let orgs and volunteers sign up and see what is available, for a given locality.
This way you will find your answer.
After a month of golf, I realised that I needed to be in the game to feel alive and challenged, so went back and started another company pretty quickly.
At 33 it’s way to young to “retire”. Some people could probably do it and amuse themselves with hobbies and family, but I think most people driven enough to be self made financially independent at a young age would find it hard to switch to a life of leisure overnight.
If you do return to work or entrepreneurship, doing it because you genuinely enjoy the work and challenge rather than needing the money is a good place to be. I’m enjoying my work more than I have for a long time because the motivations are completely different.
I think talking with a therapist is so great I recommend it to everyone, not just those who are suffering from some kind of "problem." Only you can really find the solution, but that doesn't mean you have to do it alone. Many times I find what to do to be somewhat counter-intuitive.
Sometimes external review is required to make sure the requirements are met for such complex problems as implementing a life. ;)
“We thought of life by analogy with a journey, a pilgrimage, which had a serious purpose at the end, and the thing was to get to that end, success or whatever it is, maybe heaven after you’re dead. But we missed the point the whole way along. It was a musical thing and you were supposed to sing or to dance while the music was being played.”
Alan Watts
"Know thyself" is one of the tenants of old, and people naturally think they know themselves well. (I used to think the same way too... but it's actually an illusion - a self deceit that we have all built in.)
Start by digging into your own uneasiness. Where does it come from? What triggers it? You'll find some personal thing, most likely from childhood, tucked away in the recesses of your psyche that drives you. Meditation and self honesty are key here.
You can also start by looking at other things, like anger & see how something like a small irritation early in the day can lead to more irritation later on, which can lead to a blow up.
As you dig into your own psyche, you'll hopefully uncover how to love your wife, kids and place in life even more. It will then allow you to dig into yourself more, with increasing levels of gratitude, compassion and love as a result. It's pretty cool.
Pay attention to your nightly dreams also, as they often reflect your day time psyche and can also influence how your upcoming day will be.
Maybe this is what you're looking for?
If I were better at dealing with people, I'd probably go into local politics. The government is always a mess and a person who is not there to fill his pockets/stroke his ego would be a net plus.
Volunteering is a good suggestion, of course. Trying to inject a new insight into the conversation here, perhaps it's simply that what you're missing is a broader scope to your life direction. Volunteering is one way to achieve that, but as tech people we can also change the world with our work - are doing so whether we realize it or not. The question is, how? And do you change it for better or worse?
"Pouring your soul into something that can provide meaning to your life" doesn't just happen, your life has no meaning, just like mine doesn't... but you can pour something into your life regardless, and this will be much more satisfactory, knowing we all die, accepting we all die, and still having fun in this short moment of time we are here... and creating for fun, and... living!
In my case, I've started delving into creating a new language, creating a typography for this language, writing a universe where people talk in this language, writing a story that happens in this universe, and further down the line I plan to write poems and music that happens in this universe... and all along I know this is not my life's purpose. This is just a creation... We don't need a purpose per-se, we need something we love, like the love of exploring, the love of creating, or the love of pursuing new dreams.
The last thing you say is that you'd like to pour your soul into something that can provide meaning without rushing into the next side project... I'd argue against that, pursue ALL the problems, ALL the side projects... and then you'll find one thing that really clicks, and at that moment you'll know where to invest your energy.
And maybe, purpose. But purpose is a side-effect.
Perhaps consider a means of not losing the advantages of what you currently have, while allowing you significant leeway to alter your future course in a way that will become clearer to you as you discover it.
PS: I am not a native speaker of English.
You need personal connections with meaningful care of and for people in your community. Don’t donate: put in the sweat equity, and let your life change and fill up naturally as much as your service changes and fills up your community’s and it’s people.
Get out there and make a difference in your world with a humble heart, and you’ll find that it’ll make a difference in you, too.
If you’re in the US, there are a host of things of great value you can sink years into, ranging all over the spectrum from voter registration to homeless work to volunteering for literacy in libraries to doing trail maintenance work in a national park or something. The possibilities for civic service are plentiful!
If I was in your position, I would concentrate on two things. Doing something to provide free(or atleast affordable) best quality
- education to everyone, especially under priviledged kids e.g. from poor families and orphans.
- healthcare to poor people.
Atleast do these two things and the world will be a far better place.
Take a break from your comfortable life and go travel to places like asia, africa and south america and you will find your calling.
Here is some advice from a well know person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYfNvmF0Bqw
Edit: typo
Studying some philosophy can help - not for getting the idea, but for usefully evaluating it after you get it.
EDIT: A playful example: https://artful.design/
Hope you will find your way :)
I'm asking, because what you said sounds like copied from somewhere, without any own toughts.
You also sound a bit narrow minded. Life is more than just getting rich, marry, make, kids and travel. You can make art, draw, musik, sing, dance, sport, research.
Also, you seem rather goal oriented. That isn't bad, but it can lead to problems. While chasing a goal, you don't have it and long for it and when you finally reach it, it's done again.
The way should be the goal. Love what you do and the goals become some nice extras.
Pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ. It will require faith at first. But if you have a real intent to know, and are willing to listen and make changes, you'll get the answers you need.
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." ~Prov. 3:5-6
You got the most important thing right. Whatever you end up doing, don't forget that.
Did you consider asking while meditating? In that state it's easier to reach into the unconscious, where there may well be an answer waiting for you.
That's the easy part, the difficult part is accepting the answer as it will potentially change your life dramatically.
Or just take the one thing from your interests you think you're best at, and make a website for others to enjoy.
Or take the regular route and study philosophy - it was created to find the meaning of life.
Sometimes in life its nice to have a bit of nihilism and purposefully let stuff go or be imperfect.
If nothing else work you could also try ayahuasca, lsd, or simply MDMA.
I've been in your situation before, and immersing myself in great works of art was probably the most useful thing I did.
Particularly, Hinduism has its highest corpus of philosophy devoted to the question - What next ?
In fact, that is literally the question the treatise starts with 'After enjoying all material desires, what next ? let's start with God'
Your kid?
Help other people, make art and listen to "Skating Polly"...
I haven't figured out a Grand Unified Theory or anything, but a few ideas that seem important to me:
1. Altruism & Relationships - covered extensively here already. Cultivating a few deep relationships and picking altruistic goals seem to be the scalable approaches to escaping the Hedonistic Treadmill and they're probably necessary components of any post-financial independence life strategy.
2. Growth - I'm not sure if this is a universal human thing or just something entrepreneur types are predisposed to, but I've realised that I'm much happier when I'm learning and growing. When the learning curve flattens out, I get feel unsettled. This seems to line up with your observation that you intensely take up a hobby, then shift to something new. Startups scratch this itch well because the company's growth forces constant personal growth. Initially, I tried to transcend this need to always be in motion thinking it was unsustainable over the long term - but lately I've been more accepting of it.
3. Change the Game - the trouble with growth as you approach the peak of whatever career/goal/journey you're on is it becomes exponentially harder to level up and satisfy that need for motion. I think the solution is to pivot to a totally different journey where you can start as a beginner and have a lot of attainable learning & growth ahead of you. I suspect this is a big part of why successful people tend to pursue philanthropy at the height of their careers - it's a whole new game, with new challenges to overcome.
From those ideas, I decided to pick a difficult, new domain to focus on with a goal of figuring out how to do some meaningful good. I happened to choose climate change, but health, education, poverty reduction, democracy, or any number of other issues fit the bill of "hard enough to provide years of learning/growth + focus is helping others". By picking something and committing, I avoided getting stuck in and endless loop of trying to decide what the optimal area is - a bias to action helps a lot when you get stuck with too much choice.
For me, the concrete starting point was Googling "best climate change books", reading half a dozen of them, and trusting my curiosity to guide me from there. I've spent the last year learning, and now I'm converging on starting a startup - although there are plenty of other structures that could work too (non-profits, volunteering, working on open source, consulting, advising, etc). The journey hasn't given me total clarity or magically solved everything - but by imposing some structure ("work full-time to figure out how you can help with climate change") on my life, things are at least less confusing.
Happy to discuss more privately if you'd like.