0. https://www.tillett.info/2020/04/05/a-solution-to-covid-19/
Edit. HN seems to have put me on the “posting too fast” treadmill so I will have to edit this post.
While effectively the same as a vaccine, it is quite different. Any such attenuated strain identified can be used outside of the regulatory system. This is the real key to the idea.
Edit 2. I am not a crank - well at least I don’t think I am. I have a PhD in microbiology and I have been a professor in microbiology and virology. I now work in the biotech industry. Have a look at the about me section of my blog to check into my background if you care about these things.
Next, send your idea and medical validation to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. You're not contacting Bill, you're contacting his foundation. Their doctors will look at your idea and can present it to Bill on the next scheduled call.
A recent AMA related to covid-19. There are references to his team and adviser: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fksnbf/im_bill...
His Reddit handle is: https://www.reddit.com/user/thisisbillgates His Twitter handle is: https://twitter.com/BillGates His blog is: http://www.gatesletter.com
If you search, you will also easily find his email address online. He has multiple email addresses as per online searches.
HTH
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.10.20033944v...
We found, in our 788 confirmed COVID-19 patients, the decreased rate of severe/critical type, increased liver/kidney damage and prolonged period of nuclear acid positivity during virus dissemination, when compared with Wuhan. To investigate the underlining mechanism, we isolated one strain of SARS- CoV-2 (ZJ01) in mild COVID-19 patient and found the existence of 35 specific gene mutation by gene alignment. Further phylogenetic analysis and RSCU heat map results suggested that ZJ01 may be a potential evolutionary branch of SARS-CoV-2. We classified 54 strains of viruses worldwide (C/T type) based on the base (C or T) at positions 8824 and 28247. ZJ01 were both T at these two sites, becoming the only TT type currently identified in the world. The prediction of Furin cleavage site (FCS) and the sequence alignment of virus family indicated that FCS may be an important site of coronavirus evolution. ZJ01 had mutations near FCS (F1-2), which caused changes in the structure and the electrostatic distribution of the S protein surface, further affecting the binding capacity of Furin. Single cell sequencing and ACE2-Furin co-expression results confirmed that Furin level was higher in the whole body, especially in glands, liver, kidney and colon while FCS may help SARS-CoV-2 infect these organs. The evolutionary pattern of SARS-CoV-2 towards FCS formation may result in its clinical symptom becoming closer to HKU-1 and OC43 (the source of FCS sequence-PRRA) caused influenza, further showing potential in differentiating into mild COVID-19 subtypes.
The post has an academic style, and academia optimizes for writing articles, not for the articles to be read or impact the world.
If you rub a lamp and a genie appears, better get to the point.
1- Create a website: http://IhaveaCOVIDsolution.com , On the website, outline your idea, why it would work, put a personal video of a story etc.. 2-Email the website to everyone who knows Bill. Track if he opens it for free with Email Tracking, Scheduling, Templates & Attachment Tracking. 3-If he doesn't open it, tweet it to him. 4-A week later, follow up on your email 5-Find where many of his followers (on Twitter) hang out, which hashtags do many use. Post your website and use that hashtag. Or, tweet each of them individually. 6-Find posts on Quora about Covid-19 solutions, post your idea (for free) and post your website. 7-A week later follow up again with Bill. Also, reach out to other Gates foundation Execs. Reach out to Melinda or Microsoft execs(ex-Msft friends also) and get ignored (will toughen you up). Maybe 1 of them will want a phone call. Find Bill's address, write him a hand-written letter and send the website URL as well.
At some point, he will either:
Answer, quick email from him. Best case a phone call. His publicist will say "Thanks, Bill will look at your ideas." You'll never hear from them again
Maybe he won't answer, but at some point you'll get someone to respond and perhaps become a client to your solution.
They're giving $10k - $500k grants to fight covid-19, and decisions are made within 48 hours.
Press Release: https://www.mercatus.org/features/mercatus-emergent-ventures...
[†] Note that currently, researchers are rather vigorously debating the true proportion of asymptomatic cases (or distinguishing them from pre-symptomatic cases)--we need more widespread e.g. antibody-based testing to answer this more confidently than we can by indirectly fitting coarse time-series to simplified models.
When we exterminate species of animals, microbes that inhabit them jump species. It's how they survive.
One of the things that fosters antibiotic resistance is that bacteria mutate at a higher rate in hostile environments.
Different people with different genetics react differently to the same things.
I am not trying to rain on your parade. I'm trying to take you seriously and share my thoughts. I'm sure we all want a solution.
I think we need to up our game on other things. I don't know how to get traction on that. We already know a lot of things that help and we are just not doing a very good job of getting everyone to understand and comply.
If we did, people might dismiss the success as "luck" anyway. Humans have a terrible track record of not knowing how to count the disasters that didn't happen but should have.
Best of luck. I see in comments someone forwarded it to the Gates Foundation. I would be happy to learn I'm wrong and this works.
[There might be] natural strains of SARS-CoV-2 in the world that have mutated to be non-pathogenic (asymptomatic), but are still infective and will provide immunity to the more pathogenic (deadly) strains.
[If there are and] we can find one of these non-pathogenic viral strains out in the wild we could [use it] much like the live attenuated (oral) polio vaccine.
The submitter seeks help to test this hypothesis.
- Website where people who fit criteria can register
- some form of triage (symptoms checking, contact tracing)
- Then collection. Presumably people will need to supply mucus samples, and have those samples collected safely. This sounds difficult and seems like the expensive and hard to scale part. But I can imagine a fleet of drivers with some training being able to collect and store samples in "proper" equipment. This is well out of my expertise.
- testing / sequencing (lab based). This you seem confident on.
Is this a good idea - I don't know. Is it possible - yes it seems quite doable. Does it need billg? I doubt it. Plenty of people have cash and now have motivation.
Good luck.
Good luck
You're basically proposing a form of vaccination. Essentially everyone knows that a vaccine would be the way out of this mess. There's loads of research on Vaccines for Covid-19 right now. Your idea isn't exceptionally surprising, as you write yourself it's close to how some of the early vaccines worked.
I am reasonably convinced researchers into vaccines right now turn every stone to look for possible ways to make a vaccine as fast as possible. They probably got the idea already and if it's a feasible path someone is working on it.
That said making a vaccine still faces some basic challenges that every medicine faces: You want to be pretty sure that a) it works and b) it has no massive surprising sideeffects. Given that you want to give it to potentially almost everyone on the planet, you want to be really sure.
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/03/variolation-may-cut-co...
I'd like to sign up for it either way, assuming medical supervision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFnP5TK61aI
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/04/wh...
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/04/reply-to-cowen-on-vari...
I know your proposal is not exactly that, but it has some overlap with those ideas. I'd recommend joining those discussions on those blogs.
If yours significantly improved the safety of their proposals, it would be a welcome addition to those discussions.
Note though that it shares some obstacles with widespread vaccinations, in that safety and efficacy testing is the major delay, not the chemistry.
We could alternatively do low dose variolation on the young with technology today, with infectious strains administered through a cut on the shin to encourage lower severity progression. We might lack implementation capacity and social will to try very experimental approaches. If so, "found strain" vaccination will face similar capacity issues while also introducing new questions about safety and effectiveness and requiring significantly more research.
So I'm not sure it's a silver bullet, or how it fares against existing proposals, but seems an avenue worth exploring in parallel, and raising first with others generating policy ideas in this space.
N.b.- Tyler Cowen has a foundation that is actively providing grants or prizes for work on COVID-19, he's not Gates, but not just some random blogger either.
(I apologize for hijacking the thread. By the way, invited reposts are related to the re-upping system described here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380)