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📣 andrew_

GSuite / Office365 Alternatives for Non-501(c)(3) Nonprofits


Please humor some quick background: I'm on the board of a very small neighborhood advocacy association in an incorporated city in Florida, and trying to bring them into the digital age. The association is voluntary, with minimal dues income at $10 / household. Our dues are mainly allocated to put on a yearly neighborhood picnic and to pay for expenses related to the larger advocacy that the association board and members participate in. Our neighborhood is bordered by several "historic designation" neighborhoods, which makes ours a target for developers looking to churn maximum profit per acre. Most of our advocacy and work goes towards keeping the neighborhood an actual neighborhood, pedestrian and bike friendly, keeping green spaces green, and welcoming to families both new and legacy. It's a non-intrusive, well-intentioned group of people mostly on their own dime and time.

We've gone through the arduous review and appeal process with both Microsoft and Google but was ultimately denied the free to use, nonprofit account, as we're a Florida State-registered and validated nonprofit, and not 501(c)(3) federally registered. We've explored the paid route, but would cost the dues of 36 households, when only 22 participate presently. We can't get corporate sponsors as we haven't found any willing to donate with no federal write-off. We can't register as a 501(c)(3) because the registration process and yearly requirements are cost-prohibitive. We can't get grants to pay for registration because we have to be registered to apply. It's a tough chicken and egg situation.

What we're in need of: - An [email] account for 5 board officers - Collaborative cloud storage - Groups / Forums that residents can subscribe to - Email lists

I've so far been unable to find services that will cater to state-registered, but not federally registered (501(c)(3)), nonprofits for these needs. Mixing services is not ideal, but would still be a welcomed last resort.


  👤 tracker1 Accepted Answer ✓
Have you considered just not doing domain mail, and just keeping a relatively small website that lists the board's emails, and just use personal/individual/free accounts? It makes sharing a bit more of a pain, and group lists not nearly as good, but it may be easier.

There's OwnCloud and similar, not to mention mail-in-a-box solutions. Most of which could be done on a $5-10/month digital ocean, linode or similar environment. For that matter, a small ISP hosting account may get you 90% of the way for less than $20/month total.

It kind of depends on your own technical expertise and how much time you can dedicate vs. a paid solution.

Edit:

Take a look at Cloudron on DO for an example. I'd probably do the mid-range $15 droplet, or the $10 one.

https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/cloudron


👤 dejan
Hi Andrew,

We will gladly sponsor you with email services - migadu.com regardless of your status. No cloud storage though and no documents/spreadsheets. Groups/forums/email lists are coming soon by the end of the year. Calendar is due in a few weeks.


👤 jen729w
Can you clarify your actual budget? Or is it $0?

For email, I found Migadu [0] this year and love them. It’s ~$50/year, but for that you get unlimited mailboxes. The limit is on how many emails/day you send. This might suit your needs?

How much cloud storage do you need? I’d be using the free tiers at Dropbox/OneDrive/etc., or some sort of P2P solution based off my own server. I use Resilio Sync and it’s great.

Good luck finding solutions to the rest. Sounds like something really worthwhile you’re doing there.

[0]: https://www.migadu.com/en/index.html


👤 m0zg
Raise the dues by about $5 and pay for GSuite? You aren't going to "advocate" much against real estate developers without paying tens of thousands of dollars to a lawyer anyway, so maybe you should revise your cost structure even more dramatically.

Source: our neighborhood's HOA spent $53K on legal fees to disallow the construction of a 4 story retirement home right across the road from us. This took 2 years and we lost: the other side can just wait you out. Yearly dues were raised from $300 to $450 to pay for this fail.


👤 Nextgrid
You should ask FastMail - maybe they’d be willing to do something for a non-profit even though you don’t fit the “standard” non-profit requirements.

👤 dawg-
Hey, I work in nonprofit admin and have never encountered this issue. Your best bet is coming up with the $600 to file as a 501(c)3, because this issue with email is not going to be the last time you run into problems without it.

Have you ever done any fundraising campaigns or events? I think you would be surprised how much the people in your city, even people outside of your neighborhood, might be willing to donate some money to keep livable, walkable communities from being overrun by development.


👤 ishfuseini
Maybe Zoho might be a good fit? https://www.zoho.com/